View Full Version : Ultimate handling, 5gen
charles quesnel
02-09-2002, 03:02 PM
How do i get the best handling possible for my lude, suspension, suspension height, strut bar, anti-sway bars, tie bars, I want the best balanced car out there(no understeer)and not to much oversteer,
Jarek
02-09-2002, 03:41 PM
Ok to keep this in the reality realm, I would say:
Tein HA's, lightweight rims, super sticky tires, both strut bars.
Regarding anti-sway bars, IF you can get a 25mm front and 28mm rear like Grant has, do it. Keep in mind that Grants' rear bar was so stiff that it ripped out the brackets and had to be welded to the frame instead. Since the above bars are not in production, a rear ST anti-sway and front stock should be fine.
Also I believe that with the Tein's you can corner weigh your car, which Marsh has done I think.
Tie bars are all looks imo and should be done last. Strut bars would also be last on my list.
Marsh
02-09-2002, 04:05 PM
Yes corner weighting coilovers is very important. Can't believe the improvement it made.
You also want to run a slightly stiffer rear spring than Tein recommends. Also bare in mind that "too much oversteer" is a relative term and depends on the driver. If your going to track the car occasionally and drive it every day, I would go with the 23mm rear bar and the same springs in back as in front. If your never gonna track the car then I would go slightly softer on the rear than the front, but not much.
But I'd like to drive Rusty's car now and see just how right or wrong I might be.
just ask slntsam, he's the suspension man who has every bar possible :D
charles quesnel
02-10-2002, 11:56 AM
HOLY MOLY u guys no alot,must be nice,I can't wait to meet u guys this summer, I'm going to learn alot, what do u guys think of 225's, and whats the best tires out ther for the street...:D
Jarek
02-10-2002, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by charles quesnel
HOLY MOLY u guys no alot,must be nice,I can't wait to meet u guys this summer, I'm going to learn alot, what do u guys think of 225's, and whats the best tires out ther for the street...:D
Unless you get wider rims, it won't work. Even with the wider rims you might rub the fenders. Imo the better summer street tires out there, (money no object) are the Bridgestone S03, RE730, Toyo T1-S, BFGoodrich G-Force K/D, Nitto NT-555 ( has anyone heard anything about these?) Yoko A520(loud, I have them).. just to name a few.
charles quesnel
02-10-2002, 07:54 PM
Do u guys think that a 5gen prelude SH or non SH
can break the 1.00g Barrier or come close....
Marsh
02-10-2002, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by charles quesnel
Do u guys think that a 5gen prelude SH or non SH
can break the 1.00g Barrier or come close....
I HAVE broken the 1G barrier. 1.2 Gs on a 2 axis G-cube. Best of all I did it on a STOCK SUSPENSION!
Tires are the secret. You can't use latteral G to compare between cars unless those cars have the exact same tires. I can make nearly any car pull 1G. That's barely even challenging.
BTW everyone I know that knows what they're talking about (a pretty short list) and has owned Nittos, hated them.
BB1-4WS
02-11-2002, 01:14 AM
I think Marsh's sig says it all! :thumbup:
Marsh
02-11-2002, 02:26 PM
For those with bad eyesB)
http://www.cockyracingguy.com/pictures/Prelude/lude-47.jpg
BTW the rest of my pictures are now up on my site.
nurey
02-13-2002, 09:54 PM
holy ****, is the rear tire off the ground? i just noticed ... :(
charles quesnel
02-13-2002, 10:07 PM
That's crazy, I think it is....!
Marsh
02-13-2002, 10:16 PM
Yup. It's called "tripodding"! :thumbup:
clumzy
02-14-2002, 12:09 PM
Marsh, I love that domain name ... hahaha .. describes you to a "t" ;)
I don't know about the racing stuff but on your homepage I wanna see more pics of those kitties!!
DirtyLude
02-14-2002, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by charles quesnel
That's crazy, I think it is....! Most of you probably do it without noticing. Lifting the back wheel is very easy to do on a hard turn. I didn't realize I was doing it until someone who followed me told me it was happening.
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