Install Day September 6th, 2003

[Keith]

Anybody have anything to install? Our buddy Jason is leaving soon for Arizona for school and this is possibly the last install meet we'll be having at his place in awhile. James, can you find out what w/e he is free?


EDIT: Date set. Saturday September 6th, 2003 at Jason's house.


I have my Hondata Style Gasket to install...

[Chris]

Steering wheel.
Strut bars.
Header (when it comes).

[Laura]

Nothing, but I will get my hands durty this time.. :P

[Cory]

find me someting to get...lol

[Chris]

Originally posted by 99lude
find me someting to get...lol

Tokicos?

[Jacques]

Chris, I have your rear deck. Did you want me to give it to you sometime this week? Keith, I'll try to find out with Jason soon.

[Laura]

Originally posted by 99lude
find me someting to get...lol
Oh man... that was a wide open door there... if you were on the main board you would have been ripped apart...

[Chris]

Originally posted by Laura
Oh man... that was a wide open door there... if you were on the main board you would have been ripped apart...

Why should that stop you - let it rip!!!!:thumbup:

[Keith]

LOL... you are mean Chris!

[Laura]

If it were anyone else but cory I would, but he might take it the wrong way.

[Cory]

Ahhh! I'll buy the shocks from you chris. Next install day bring them and ill provide that cash :-D ....i forgot about those blues..

[Yungimoto]

I was just about to make a thread about this....

Does Sept. 6th work for everyone? There might be a party afterwards too.... details on that will be posted later.

[Keith]

That works for me Jason! Can I get there early so we can start on removing my IM? (I'll bring breakfast).

[Cory]

Sounds good i'll ask off

[Yungimoto]

Originally posted by Keith
That works for me Jason! Can I get there early so we can start on removing my IM? (I'll bring breakfast).

Werd. We don't really need air tools to take an IM off so we can start super early.

[Keith]

True dat but we are looking at a 4+ hour job... it's just tedious... I bought some gasket remover. I'll get some new OEM gaskets for the TB, upper IM and connecting to the butterfly plate. What do you consider super early?

[Chris]

Going away party for Jasonsan. YAY!!! You and your family have been so good to let us invade your garage all the time. I'm really grateful for that.

Chris

[Keith]

We are going to get Jason drunk! :P

[Yungimoto]

Indeed.....

Ummmm, well, we could start the install friday night or something too.... or start at like 6am? Or do it a different day?



Regarding the party, there's a possibility it will be at a Suby guy named Andrew's place.... he's got a pimpin ass apartment and said he might be having a party the 6th and that it'd be cool to have a going away party during his party. So like, there would be a ton of people there and it would be pretty awesome.

If that doesn't work, we're just going to have it at my place. :thumbup:

[Keith]

Originally posted by Yungimoto
Indeed.....

Ummmm, well, we could start the install friday night or something too.... or start at like 6am? Or do it a different day?



Regarding the party, there's a possibility it will be at a Suby guy named Andrew's place.... he's got a pimpin ass apartment and said he might be having a party the 6th and that it'd be cool to have a going away party during his party. So like, there would be a ton of people there and it would be pretty awesome.

If that doesn't work, we're just going to have it at my place. :thumbup: Just let us know and I'm sure most of us will be in. :thumbup:

I can't leave the car overnight since it's my only car... :( Maybe we can start at like 7:30-8am...

[Keith]

BTW, Jason, check your PM.

[Cory]

welll keith if u need a ride if ur keeping ur car overnight ill pick you up.

[grlielude]

btw did you find a handata style gasket for me yet??

[Laura]

Yes he has some on order...

[Keith]

Originally posted by grlielude
btw did you find a handata style gasket for me yet??

Please read!

http://www.hondaprelude.to/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25536

So far Cory has said for sure he wants 1.

[ksprelude01]

Keith will that keep the IM that much cooler then the rest of the engine

[Cory]

I wanted one if we could all install it. I will have to pay alot for installtion i thought we could all work on it one day just those.

[Keith]

Originally posted by ksprelude01
Keith will that keep the IM that much cooler then the rest of the engine

Yuppers... it's not that it will give you more horsepower...instead, you'll gain more horsepower and normal operating temps...

Cory, I'll help you one day to install it.. but I don't think we could tackle more than 1 a day. We'll have to see how mine goes.

[Cory]

Ok, thats fine. I'll buy one but i have no clue as you can tell and a body shop would charge me 75 hour easy for this work. Let see how yours goes but i would like it.

[grlielude]

Originally posted by 99lude
Ok, thats fine. I'll buy one but i have no clue as you can tell and a body shop would charge me 75 hour easy for this work. Let see how yours goes but i would like it.

I hope you would take your car to a body shop for engine work anyways.

[Cory]

Originally posted by grlielude
I hope you would take your car to a body shop for engine work anyways.
What's wrong with my car i just got it i dont need to take it to a body shop and i have a 2yr warranty on her. I'm O.K. but if something did happen of course i would take it there, my dad knows better.

[Jacques]

I don't think I've mentioned it yet, but all I'm going to do besides help wrench Keith's install is replace my ATTS fluid.

[Keith]

Can you find the page number on the Helms manual so I can read up on it?

[Jacques]

Originally posted by Keith
Can you find the page number on the Helms manual so I can read up on it?

It's on page 15-67 (ATTS fluid replacement). I need to read up on it again.

[Keith]

Doesn't look hard at all. You just need 1 quart of ATF plus new washers. Do you want to do your tranny fluid while we are there?

Keith

[Keith]

Reading the ATTS inspection steps, it looks like ATTS is like a viscous LSD...

Anyhoo...

The drain plug is on the bottom left... you can barely see it but it's below the big noticable bolt.
http://www.higginstribe.com/gallery/atts/DSC00020.JPG

The filler bolts is the big huge top bolt facing left...
http://www.higginstribe.com/gallery/atts/DSC00021.JPG

(sorry Mark for hi-jacking your pics :))

[Jacques]

Originally posted by Keith
Doesn't look hard at all. You just need 1 quart of ATF plus new washers. Do you want to do your tranny fluid while we are there?

I had my tranny fluid flushed (I had it done) at around 80K.

[Billiam]

I wouldn't mind changing my tranny and atts fluid as well.

[Jacques]

Originally posted by Hobie1113
I wouldn't mind changing my tranny and atts fluid as well.

Bill, we need to coordinate a time when we can meet up so I can borrow your camera mount and camera. Gimme a holla.

[TJ]

I'll be there, hopefully we can install my springs that day, I dont know if I will have them by next saturday I have never bought anything from a different country

[Keith]

Originally posted by lude98vtec
I'll be there, hopefully we can install my springs that day, I dont know if I will have them by next saturday I have never bought anything from a different country

Did you buy them TJ? Get a tracking number too. How did he send them?

I'll probably do my speed bleeders and bleed my brake system again too.

[TJ]

I just paid for them and he is shipping them tommorrow

[Keith]

Ask for a tracking number. Tell him to mark it as a 'Gift' and a 'Used Automotive part'.

Keith <- Canadian who has shipped TONS of stuff to Canada from the US and vice-versa.

[TJ]

will do. thanks for the info keith, you have been alot of help

[Yungimoto]

Ok, so here's the deal. Install day will probably end around 7-8.... party will begin like 9pm or something. Party is going to stay at my house.

You all are welcome to invite a friend or two if you want.

[Keith]

Oman... we better finish up early so I can come up to shower and head back over there...

[Cory]

are youngins allowed as long as we dont drink any alcholic bevarages?

[TJ]

hey are you guys up for doing a camber kit on a 4th gen, my buddy wants to join the club but is not much of a computer guy.

[Keith]

I'm up for it...

Keith

[TJ]

cool I'll tell him

[Keith]

Do you have the instructions? I just want to look over them first.

Keith

[TJ]

no I dont

[Laura]

Would there be any way of finding some? that might help a little bit.

[TJ]

well I dont think I will have my springs, the guy emailed me yesterday and said he got the payment and was gonna send them out asap and I still havent gotten a tracking number from him

[Cory]

Ok, i think i need to change my oil, so what should i get what kind and how many bottles? I might get brake fluid to not shure. let me know thanks

[TJ]

I use valvoline durablend. its a mix between regular and synthetic. I usually just buy a case at a time

[Keith]

Normal or synthetic... get 5W30 with a filter that fits a Honda Prelude with a crush washer. Get 6 quarts (that's 6 small bottles).

If you are doing brake fluid, you'll need about 1 quart of DOT 3 fluid. Try to get one that has at least 500 F boiling point. Apparently Castrol makes one that retains it's boiling point longer than 6 months.

BTW guys, I doubt I'll have the speed bleeders in time for install day.

Keith

[Cory]

thanks keith...

[Jacques]

Originally posted by Keith
BTW guys, I doubt I'll have the speed bleeders in time for install day.


Oh well. I'll install it one of these days.:)

I use Mobil 1 5W-30 year-round. For brake fluid, I was using Ford's Motorcraft DOT 3, but now use ATE Blue. It's not cheap at between $12-15/quart.

[Yungimoto]

Word. I'd like to see as many people over at my house as possible.


Ok, install day starts at 8am, people can show up whenever they want. It'll probably last 'til 7 or 8(probably 7 so we can clean up a bit and get ready for party time).

Party time starts at 9pm? Somewhere around then. I'm going to say BYOB just because I don't have a ton of booze money sitting around. You're welcome to bring a couple friends if you'd like.

Directions:

My address is
16824 Sunset Circle Dr.
Wildwood, MO 63011

You can mapquest that if you'd like - http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?addtohistory=&country=US&address=16824+Sunset+Circle+Dr.&city=Wildwood&state=MO&zipcode=63011&historyid=&submit.x=61&submit.y=15

From 40 going west:

Take the Clarkson/Olive exit.
Go south on Clarkson(left)
Go west on Clayton(right, there's a stoplight)
Turn left on Westglen Farms(you'll be entering Tall Oaks, my neighborhood. This is the last left before you hit Lafayette HS)
Turn left on Oak Crest Manor(3rd left once you enter my neighborhood)
Turn right on Sunset Circle Dr.(first right)
My house is 4th on the left.

From 44 going west:

take the 109 exit.
Turn North(right) onto 109
Follow 109 past 100 and turn right onto Clayton(there's a stoplight there) Lafayette HS will be on the corner.
Turn right on Westglen Farms(first right after Lafayette HS)
Turn left on Oak Crest Manor(3rd left once you enter my neighborhood)
Turn right on Sunset Circle Dr.(first right)
My house is 4th on the left.

From Manchester going west:

Turn right onto Westglen Farms(there's a stoplight)
Once you enter my neighborhood, take the 2nd right(Oak Crest Manor)
Turn right on Sunset Circle Dr.(first right)
My house is 4th on the left.


If you're coming from west of my house figure it out.


My cell # is 636-346-6079 in case you get lost.

Hope to see you there!
Jason

[Keith]

Jason, I was thinking of us starting earlier than 8am.. is that cool with you?

[Yungimoto]

Originally posted by Keith
Jason, I was thinking of us starting earlier than 8am.. is that cool with you?

That's fine... the 8am thing was for everyone else. :)

I figure we can put your car in the other spot since it shouldn't require as much room and let the others use the main garage spot.

[Keith]

Originally posted by Yungimoto
That's fine... the 8am thing was for everyone else. :)

I figure we can put your car in the other spot since it shouldn't require as much room and let the others use the main garage spot.

That's fine.. I don't think we'll need any air tools anyhow. What do you want for breakfast? Is Rich showing up early too?

Keith

[Yungimoto]

I'll ask Rich to see what time he's arriving.

Nevermind about using the other spot... my dad is rebuilding the command car carburetor so we can't move it.

What time are you planning on showing up? For breakfast you can get fastfood type stuff if you want(like bacon, egg, and cheese sandwiches and hash browns) or donuts.... or not worry about it at all. :)

[Jacques]

If you guys need an extra hand, gimme a holler. Otherwise, I'm sleeping in and seeing you clowns whenever I get up.:P

[Keith]

Nah, I think Dimitri is coming too. But Chris said he want's to watch and help out. I plan to document it (as usual) and post the install steps.

Jason, I'll pick up some McD's or Donuts or something... I'll aim for 7:15am. You have gasket remover, right? I picked up a can too just incase.

Keith

[TJ]

I'll be there tommorrow, dont start my job til tuesday

[Keith]

Cool, cool... is your buddy coming too?

[ksprelude01]

i can be at the house in 5 min, He lives right across manchester from me

[ksprelude01]

I'll try to be there at 7:30-8 tomarrow, just depends on when i get up. But i have nothing to install , just a helping hand. Since my springs haven't even left CA yet. But thats ok

[TJ]

Originally posted by Keith
Cool, cool... is your buddy coming too?

yes he is still wanting to do the camber kit

[Billiam]

Damn, I gotta work this saturday and the next. :(

[Jacques]

Don't you have banker hours on Saturday? Unless you have stuff to do in the afternoon with the gf or something.

[Keith]

So guess we'll (James) the OBD2 workaround. Is Chris doing it to?

Keith

[TJ]

if you do the obd2 workaround can you still use a obd2 dianostics computer

[Yungimoto]

Originally posted by Hobie1113
Damn, I gotta work this saturday and the next. :(

You can still show up for the party. :)

[Keith]

Originally posted by lude98vtec
if you do the obd2 workaround can you still use a obd2 dianostics computer

Yeah... it's just installing an switch on off switch to prevent the ECU from retaining memory.

Does your friend have a camber kit from the front and rear?

Jason, I'm assuming it's BYOB...

[Billiam]

I'll try to swing by for a bit, but I don't know when. I'll call one of you guys on saturday.

[Cory]

can someone take me there plz!!!! i live 10 min from there max.

[Chris]

All I have to do is the S2000 steering wheel and my rear strut bar. I'll be there about 7:30 to help Jason and Keith with the gasket. I want to learn and take notes so it's easier to do mine. :)
I guess I can also be the "photo *****" to take pics for a walkthrough FAQ.

[Keith]

That's enough stuff Chris... You and Laura can share picture duties. Bring you own camera too tho. Are you doing the OBD2 work around too? If so I have to bring another switch and piece of wire.

So correct if I am wrong (anyone) but here is tomorrow's menu...

Keith -
Hondata Insulator Intake Manifold gasket

Chris -
Rear Spoon strut bar
S2000 Steering wheel

James -
OBD2 Workaround

Jen car-
Replace upper rubber washer on front suspension

TJ's friend -
Camber kit

[Yungimoto]

A couple Subaru guys are going to have some stuff too....


And yes, it's BYOB. I was going to possibly get a keg or something but I'm not even going to be drinking anymore so you guys are on your own.

[Keith]

:confused: - whatchatalkinboutwillis?

[TJ]

going out drinkin tonight so I'll be there between 10-12

[Chris]

Originally posted by Yungimoto
I was going to possibly get a keg or something but I'm not even going to be drinking anymore so you guys are on your own.

On the wagon, mate?:scratch:

[Yungimoto]

Eh, possible liver problems, so I can't drink alcohol.

[Keith]

:( - you did too much too early dude!

[Laura]

I'll be drinking SODA POP with ya Jason. :)

[Jacques]

Originally posted by Keith
James -
OBD2 Workaround


Dunno if you'll see this before you head out, but add ATTS fluid replacement, and after your PO.com post, maybe look at the endlinks and see if they're still tight. I haven't noticed anything unusual with the Progress bar after the readjustment, and it's been a month.

Yes, if you see the post time, I dunno why I'm still up.:rolleyes:

Cory, why don't you ask Tall Keith about having him pick you up? He lives close to you, doesn't he?

[Keith]

Jason, I'm leaving in 10 mins...