What is the best non-syn oil???

[PreludeGirl]

I need to do my 60000kms service in april and I'm wondering what is the best oil to get.
In my teg I used syn mobil 1 but I wanna run non-syn in the lude.
thanks
:)

[Brad]

I have always used Valvoline and that is what I recommend. Never any problems and that is what I am using in my Prelude.

Do you like your car so far?

[Laura]

As far as I know my car has always run Synth. Most ppl I know swear by it. If you run your car at high RPM's like most ppl I know, it is better protection for your car. Mobile 1 doesnt break down in the heat as fast as some of the other synth/non-synth. If you decide which one you want to go with it is a good idea not to switch back and forth.

[PreludeGirl]

But this car is a 98 so I hear if you put synth in it could start to leak.
I'd rather not run into that problem.

[clumzy]

Where did you hear that?? To quote Ian Law (man, it must seem like this guy is my hero ... incidentally with a guy named Ian Law I was expecting a chinese guy but he's actually white ... really white .. anyways)

"If you're not using synthetic oil you're damaging your engine"

I wouldn't care to speculate on the details because I'm not fluent in the affects of temperature changes to the viscocity of syth and non-syth oil.

The part that sold me was his description of a regular oil at -20cel being a lump of caramel-like semi-fluid sitting at the bottom of your oil pan. When you start your engine at that temperature, the oil isn't fluid enough until it is warmed. So for the first little while you're engine is running on what oil is left up in the engine. He also talked about the "myth" of different weights of oil.

I suppose a good experiment would be take your used engine oil after a change, put it in a container and leave it outside when it's really cold. In the morning see if it'll pour out of the container fluidly.

Anyone have any other comments about this?

[phatz]

i use castrol gtxl. its all the same garbage. as long as you change it often. Use valvoline,castol gtx,mobil,penzzoil,.

[Kev]

Personaly, I use Quaker State... doesn't really matter cuz the best thing you can do for your engine is change the oil regularly!:thumbup:

[Laura]

Synth will not make your engine leak, that is almost like saying, Eating Taco bell WONT give you gas....

[phatz]

Originally posted by BoX
Synth will not make your engine leak, that is almost like saying, Eating Taco bell WONT give you gas....


hmmm wrong.

What are the cons of the synthetic oils?

Synthetics are designed for mechanically sound engines. If your engine leaks or burns oil, you will probably notice increased oil consumption if you switch to synthetics.

The most common complaint when using a synthetic is a slight drop in oil pressure. Synthetics are generally thinner than their conventional counterparts of the same weight (click on the link below to read about viscosity and other oil characteristics).

The other problem associated with this is its tendency to promote leaks and to burn, especially in high-mileage engines. The same molecular structure that protects the metal is so fine that it can get into places that conventional oil cannot. Plus, oil seals in vehicles have been traditionally designed to withstand the rigors of conventional oils. As more manufacturers convert to putting synthetics into their vehicles at the factory, this problem will gradually disappear.

I got that from this site
http://trucks.about.com/library/weekly/aa060800b.htm?once=true&

[Jarek]

Synthetics outperform regular oil in every category. That said, in your case if the car used regular oil, you might as well stick with regular. Castrol or Valvoline imo.
Here is a good page with basic info and different oil performance numbers. http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-overview.html
Notice the big difference in the pour point between the synthetic and regular oil. That's enough for me to run synthetic because of our cold winters. Just like Jerry said, a "caramel glob" at the bottom of the pan doesn't do me any good..

[mito]

Boih have pros and cons. To break it down simply, if you're up to it and remember to change your oil 4-5000km than go with non-synthetic, if you're like me constantly going over than go synthetic.

It's all comes down to cost time ratio.

Are we still doing the group buy on some weird engine oil like redline or motul??

[Jarek]

Originally posted by mito
To break it down simply, if you're up to it and remember to change your oil 4-5000km than go with non-synthetic, if you're like me constantly going over than go synthetic.

I would disagree. Even if you are changing the oil frequently, synthetic will give you superior cold start up protection from the first date you put it in. And superior protection during the high rev/temp runs. Imo. :)

[mito]

Dunno how to explain it, but if you worked with whale blubber you would have an idea. Obviously anna here just wants to go cheaper cuz she had to shill out money trading in the teg for the lude....... so the only relevant answer for her would be the one about the price.

[Jarek]

Originally posted by PreludeGirl
I need to do my 60000kms service in april and I'm wondering what is the best oil to get.
In my teg I used syn mobil 1 but I wanna run non-syn in the lude.

Nooo, Anna asked what is the best oil. Yes, she wants to run regular stuff but the best is synthetic. Anna do you know what the previous owner used? Will you drive in the winter? Will you attend auto-x/track days/a LOT of VTEC?

[Keith]

I was using 5W30 Penzoil with a Penzoil filter... I've switch to using a Honda filter with 5W30 Castrol GTX. I am not convinced to use synthetic yet...

[Jarek]

Keith, I think your car has too many km's to switch now.

[Keith]

Originally posted by Quick_lude
Keith, I think your car has too many km's to switch now.
Probably right... I have 96000km on my odometer ;) .
Did you install that part I got for you yet?

[mito]

Originally posted by Quick_lude

Nooo, Anna asked what is the best oil. Yes, she wants to run regular stuff but the best is synthetic. Anna do you know what the previous owner used? Will you drive in the winter? Will you attend auto-x/track days/a LOT of VTEC?

Now if a question on the exam was what's the best non-synthetic oil and you replied mobil 1, you would be wrong because that's not answering the question :omg:

You are force marketing probably got some kick back from that mobil 1 oil analysis you did. Where are the results to that anyways??

I am a loyal customer to mobil 1 :rolleyes:

[SlntSam]

"People who know, use Valvoline"

I run Mobil-1 Synth. One stats that sold me was posted by Vince I think.

In the winter when it's cold, dino-juice will start lubricating in 30 seconds or so.

Synthetic will do this in 7 seconds.

[PreludeGirl]

Originally posted by Quick_lude

Nooo, Anna asked what is the best oil. Yes, she wants to run regular stuff but the best is synthetic. Anna do you know what the previous owner used? Will you drive in the winter? Will you attend auto-x/track days/a LOT of VTEC?
I have no idea what prev owner used cept it was normal oil.
I will hit vtec alot :D but no auto-x ...
:)